@sirgog 2 месяца назад +9
Update! Getting lots of credible reports that this was fixed and fast. Might actually have been from other people's reports at about the time I was posting this (I recorded it a few hours earlier).
If two donor items are too similar to the each other, the Hinelocked recipient item will now show the same item for each.@KAJYT69692 месяца назад
There hasn't even been an update
@pathofcurrency2 месяца назад
@@KAJYT6969 hotfixes exist
@sirgog 2 месяца назад +1
@@KAJYT6969 might be possible to adjust server side only
@KAJYT69692 месяца назад +1
@@sirgog Or it never worked to begin with and its just an attempt to raise the price of beasts and woke orbs
@kbar44622 месяца назад +56
Lmaoooo SnitchGog is my favorite PoE content creator 😂
@kromheimgaming41712 месяца назад +50
Affordable Pricetag till the Adorned Jewel crafting starts
@nicholasfigueiredo31712 месяца назад
True!!! haha
@sirgog 2 месяца назад +7
Yeah, imprint beasts could get pricey - although this might be part of that.
@kromheimgaming41712 месяца назад
@@sirgog I see both Craicic Chimera and Black Morrigan going up in price at the end of Week 3. At least that's were the Chimera sees it's pricetag rise picking up.
So if someone plans to use this crafting tech they should do it soon.@MNtoCali2 месяца назад
What does the ilvl do for black Morgan? I see some level 70 and higher ones does it matter?
@kromheimgaming41712 месяца назад +1
@@MNtoCali I'm 99% sure it's just the level of the monster that spawns in the Menagerie
@ethanlarge35722 месяца назад +6
I had my first SSF t17 drop about 24 hours after they patched the Einhar/Huck interaction. Thanks Snitchgog, now I have to actually play the game.
@Tripleyou2 месяца назад +7
Strange thing here is that the craft is 100% sensible. If this is an oversight, some fundamental changes need to be made in order to "fix" this.
Thank you for letting the community know about this, as this is something the average playerbase can emediatly start implementing@saberlily95622 месяца назад +24
Damn you snitchgog i hope you have a nice day
@alankubit31972 месяца назад +45
Snitchgog strikes again, you're doing a great service to the community 🙏
@kilvesx79242 месяца назад
luckily nobody has found my little crafting trick :D
@TenFrenzyFlicker2 месяца назад +5
Thank you for sharing this powerful crafting tech :D
@itsallinthepast29442 месяца назад
man i found this from you really help gj man
@fistan54472 месяца назад
dude, it is instantly fixed. No longer works.
@kho*rnchen34902 месяца назад +9
just out of curiosity, if you use a chrome on the shield without the lock, does it count as a "new" shield and if that doesnt work, does an orb of alteration work?
@mutantemolina37082 месяца назад +1
'He does it again! Can anyone stop him? I sure hope not'
@rullakepap2 месяца назад
Snitchgog sounds hilarious, thanks for the great upload!
@fatstacksmax2 месяца назад
Belton made a video about a similar interaction last league using hinekoras lock and glimpse of chaos. Does this behave the same way if you use an actual lock on the item?
@petrjara75592 месяца назад +1
That's kinda the point of the lock preserving resources and that you can see the outcome of several different "inputs". Sure the thousands of different inputs for a typical item is quite a low number compared to the infinite you can do with this strat but still. Also that makes me wonder... Delve resonators are unstackable. Can you achieve the same effect with lock and resonator or despite being unstackable the same fossils resonator has the same effect?
@Tibasu2 месяца назад +1
Do you have to get a brand new shield, or can you reroll the shield and use it again to see new results?
@SilentButDudley2 месяца назад +1
Can you check if modifying the sacrificed shield changes the outcome? Like blessed orb?
@ScreamVOXScream2 месяца назад +5
Time to craft double elevated tailwind boots
@TomCat-zo5ig2 месяца назад
How do you get the elevated mod magic? Split?
@oplaid98432 месяца назад +3
This doesn't work as outlined in the video. The OP seems to have misunderstood the source material from the @TenFrenzyFlicker video he linked in the info.
@jesterbee32 месяца назад
I attempted this crafting method ~1hr ago. Unfortunately, changing smoosh material did not change the awakener orb outcome. That being said, you can reapply a new hinekora to see a new outcome, still cheaper than spamming hinekora's normally
@PaddyXDirect2 месяца назад +3
It doesn't seem to work. The Awakeners Orb has the same outcome when I switch to another item with the same desired modifier
@marc-andreblais58182 месяца назад
this sounds op, like does it give different outcomes if you bless the first item? could be exploitable like crazy. You can basically fish for tripple influenced mod until you get what your looking for
@vbaldokaizen87482 месяца назад +8
Wondering now, if you bless orb the first shield, does the outcome change when awakened onto the other?
@Tomastomas-ng1nc2 месяца назад +3
asking for the same pls can someone test this?
@calebnguyen45362 месяца назад
I think it is working as intended. Because if you do have to reroll the sacrifice base every time you want to check. Then there is a cost.
If you do NOT have to reroll the base, just hover the Awaken Orb and the sacrifice base over the actual base indefinitely, then that NEED to be fixed. Because that has no cost.@JHgamer1012 месяца назад
i got a bug where i cannot unlock the lock craft sadly. i used the right beast x2 as well at lv83 and yellow beast lv83 still wont unlock
@CouchOwner22 месяца назад +1
if you slap a chromatic on the shield that doesn't have the "Hinekora's Lock" on it, does the result of that shield with the "Foresee" shield, change? might not need to fish between shields at all.
@tomikimpossible2 месяца назад
i tried, doesnt work at all, ur welcomed
@tahF0052 месяца назад
oooh he does it again! can anyone stop him? sure bloody hope not! love the info sirgog
@gocalixto2 месяца назад
Looking forward for a collaboration between Gog and Bruce Rivers
@taiwanisacountry2 месяца назад
I did actually not think of this -_-. I only thought about an orb of dominance. And of course adorned corrupt
@txflood25192 месяца назад
wow, need to craft my str stack amulet...
@pedrolopa22 месяца назад +1
looks like good use of mechanic to me
@Crystxllize2 месяца назад
pretty sure this works as intended, its definitely what i expected when they announced the new beast craft. Pretty obvious that its mostly gonna be used with awa orbs, maven orbs and corrupting adorned jewels for the 4th implicit. Not worth the price of craicic otherwise, but craicics probably gonna be even more expensive now
@dreamcore_gg2 месяца назад +1
Based snitchgog
@speqtre122 месяца назад
Sir Snitch at it again already /s
@ShaunhanM2 месяца назад
Coming for Jungroan's title
@Red-yt2dk2 месяца назад
IDK, this seems like an appropriate outcome of these mechanics.
@raikaria30902 месяца назад
You're not a snitch, you deliver reliable news. News is news, regardless of what GGG does.
If you know, GGG probobly knows too.@Tomastomas-ng1nc2 месяца назад
Disclaimer: every mod you try to awk orb into your hinekora item has a "preset" outcome, so if you try to awk orb "minion dmg lvl #" into your hinekora's item you'll always get the same result even if it's another item, this only works if you want to try using an awakener orb with different types of mods/influences and still you'll only get 1 outcome for each mod & influence
@fistan54472 месяца назад
Yeah, it is fixed instantly. Damn man, it would've helped aton with few crafting projects
@PrismaSigma2 месяца назад
I was wondering why I had to spend 150c on an Awakener's Orb today
@yimwee24012 месяца назад
I hope the morrigan scarab goes up in price cuz of this, cuz I got a few of em saved up
@sober6672 месяца назад
I mean with some int stacker you can totaly see if you can open mod for prefixes cannot be cheanged and well done int stacking wand is realy pricey so nice. Thou prob best use for this beast is still corrupting perfect jewels for adorned setup
@cameronbailey36972 месяца назад
Im getting the same crafting outcome when using different items as long as they have the same mod im smashing together, seems like it doesnt actually work or was hotfixed.
@Tomastomas-ng1nc2 месяца назад
it's not that it doesn't "work" but each time you awakener orb a mod it counts as a "type of currency" for example, if you try to awk "supported by minion dmg lvl 20" into your hinekora's helmet you'll always get the same result but if you try another modother than minion dmg or no mod at all you get other results.
this works but the amount of "tries" you get is really limited@cameronbailey36972 месяца назад
@@Tomastomas-ng1nc Looks like if the item has two influence mods, even if it rolls the same mod it will give a different outcome so I guess the play is to get a bunch of different combos to get multiple tries per lock. Makes it much harder to get double elevated mods but 1 elevated and one regular should be not terrible
@Tomastomas-ng1nc2 месяца назад
@@cameronbailey3697 is that correct tho? i think it is simply taking one of the mods and using that outcome regardless of how many mods you had
@theprimordialtv13102 месяца назад
Does modifying the other shield in any way change the outcome of the awakeners orb?
@sirgog 2 месяца назад +2
It would but it would ruin the foresight.
Or do you mean, say, applying quality to the donor item? I didn't think of that...@MrRoscario2 месяца назад +1
@@sirgog i thought u would do that and bam other outcome, welp another video :D bless orb the first one, and then see what is happening
@coldpizza24022 месяца назад +1
@sirgog very curious if you could bless, quality, etc the donor shield to obtain a new result. Would eliminate basically the only hassle of this craft in acquiring many donor bases
@gr0g012 месяца назад +1
But did anybody try to use a lock in the last version like this? Was it the same? Any infos about it that way? If it was in the game all along it was intended? If not it most likely some werid bug. But that should be found by a beta tester for sure...
@PrismaSigma2 месяца назад
This method is only reasonably useful as a way to begin crafting an item. Hinekora's Locks have historically cost dozens of divines each, making them only realistically viable to use on a near-complete craft. It might have been possible before, but no one would have reasonably done it. This version of the craft is available for about 215c + an Awakener's Orb at the time of this comment, making it much more reasonable to start a craft with.
@gr0g012 месяца назад
@@PrismaSigma I am not talking about if someone did it, I remember that ppl did test the stupidest stuff with those locks.
It's not about if anybody did it for the sake of crafting with it. I said if someone had any information about if it was possible before.
@morfea1232 месяца назад
Is snitch Gog brother of pog Rog? The plot thickens!
@itsSKR1MPZ2 месяца назад
Unless this has been patched without GGG noting it then it doesn't actually work. I've locked a T1 phys as Redeemer quiver and I've tried it several different ways across 3 different Warlord quivers and I always see the same result. I've even tried with a T2 Warlord mod and it gives the same other mods except that one is a tier down. I did get a different result with 2 Warlord mods but it didn't give the mod I wanted. Not sure if it's because of a quick fix that didn't get noted or it doesn't work, but even with the Einhar/Huck interaction they noted it in a hotfix so I'm leaning towards the second option.
@joelcuerrier48332 месяца назад
Only useful for heist amulets and rings mostly, because influenced items are a relic of the past otherwise, with many mods super weak and terrible. If you check 100 random profiles on poe ninja, odds are 98 of them won't have influenced items except if it's a helm or gloves with pseudo-links. It isn't something people craft, because that don't sell. A shaper shield can sometimes sell if totem builds are popular, not for mana efficiency since u want that as a synth implicit. Which makes for a way way better shield.
Saying something used to make unpopular items may get fixed is like saying Vivid Vultures should be going away because they make the top end of items too strong. Yes, they do... no, think by now it's here to stay even if I felt it shouldn't be a thing myself. Influenced items are not good items generally. There is just a few things that exist where maybe it's fine. But not truly. Tailwind Onslaught Elusive boots and all that is fine, but u still sacrifice something. Could get 60% avoid ailment with 22% suppress and 35% chaos res and still get 5-6% action speed on very optimized non-influenced items. The influence options remove the ailment avoid and the suppress for slightly bigger dps boots. It's good right, but it's just an option where u go full damage and lose big defenses affixes to get it.@Evilclown56092 месяца назад +2
oh thats a weird one... it FEELS like a bug for sure
looking forward to the item showcases from this being popularized@netneo40382 месяца назад +2
it doesn't feel like a bug to me. It's doing exactly what it says on the tin. It lets you forsee the results of a craft before you do it.
It's strong sure, but its not like this is some crazy weird interaction to me.
@JfkNeedsWindWall2 месяца назад
I wish I were good enough at this game to have the income to try out these exploits when they are found
@gubzs2 месяца назад +2
I think the game needs more stuff like this.
Really if it takes a metric ton of the item with the mod you want to "fish" for a result, it's going to take a lot of currency and an extreme amount of time to print anything insane, which is how the game works regardless. Foresight is basically just bad luck protection at a cost, which the game needs a lot more of, especially in SSF.@TheSchultzZ2 месяца назад +1
crazy
@sirgog 2 месяца назад
TBH I am honestly not sure if intended or not. Probably safe to leave in until 3.25 as this has been being done a while, I think.
@fleckens2 месяца назад
Very strong for sure but I don't think it's to the point that it needs a nerf. As you said yourself, you could do it in 3.22 but it was probably not worth using a lock on. It will most likely increase the price of frogs and awakener orbs but I don't think that's too big an issue. Also considering how powerful the graveyard crafting is this probably isn't even the best crafting method in the league.
@sirgog 2 месяца назад +1
There's crafting things that need a fix. This isn't one of those. But it's way out of the spirit of how the awakener orb should work.
@BWSSoldya2 месяца назад
Hmm, I'm not even too sure what this would be "abused" for per say? Yeah it's a powerful "deterministic" crafting option, but on the other hand, you are spending a div easily (depending on the time of day maybe even more) for the beasts alone and then you still need to get a crafting outcome you are happy with, which is still a normal gambling chance. At the end of the day you're investing at least a div to avoid using up .6 of a div?
I mean, most awakener's orb crafts (and correct me if I'm wrong here, I am by no means a crafter), only really care about transferring 2-3 mods influence mods onto a single item and then hope to have a prefix / suffix open to continue crafting on. In general you're not getting the perfect item out of an awakener's orb and even if you were looking to get a fantastic item (possibly BIS for you build), you're probably already working on a craft that'll probably easily cost you 10+ div to begin with and at best this method might save you, what? 5 divs? At that point I can't really imagine this crafting method really becoming *that* popular nor be so broken it warrants an emergency patch like the t17 shenanigans did.
Again, I'm by no means a crafter, so please correct and teach me if I'm wrong, but I don't see this being that big of an exploit@uhmmmFU2 месяца назад
It is obvious that you are not a crafter LOL
@cuttysark70342 месяца назад
Why are alts 3.6 to 1 chaos? (soft core)
@kingrobin122 месяца назад +2
I’m guessing on adorned craze
@implosesgm2 месяца назад +1
adorned... at this point in the league i'd be making half a mirror in a day just by crafting ~150 medium cluster jewels, i normally take an entire day or sometimes two just to grab a mirror as an investment (since this strategy is boring af), in this league i'll not be making it, there's almost no room for profit since alts (that should be like 1/12~15) are less than 1/4 🤡
@TotobamfRS2 месяца назад
snitches get sti... DIVINES !
@RogueCoup2 месяца назад
Doesn't work with the same mod. I tried it in 3.23 if you use a different mod you can check the results but if an item contains an already known mod it will always use that
@SamCrimson12 месяца назад +3
I think it is intended ? you can do the exact same thing without the lock (without seeing the result in advance, but that what the lock do)
They might correct it in future leagues - like they did for Alva Temple altars - but it don't look like a bug to me, just a weird currency mechanic@sirgog 2 месяца назад +3
It's the only currency orb where one orb can do a million and one different things to the same item. Like take ten different Vaal Orbs, and each one will give the same result. Awakener Orbs are a bit weird.
TBH I don't think this is a "must emergency patch" thing, the market will adjust once it's better known. It's limited by imprint beasts and maven orbs. But I wouldn't be surprised if it is patched.@SamCrimson12 месяца назад +1
@@sirgog I see your point, but the variance come from the extra item, not the orb ? Kinda like when you use the 3 for 1 map recipe, the result change even if you use permutation between 4 blank map.
@ethanlarge35722 месяца назад +1
@@SamCrimson1The thing that makes it feel unintended to me is that this is, afaik, the only way to test multiple outcomes with a single Hinekora’s Lock. Under normal circ*mstances, the only way to change the outcome is to modify the Locked item in some way, and then apply another Lock and repeat. In this case, you are essentially modifying a different item rather than the Locked item, but achieving the same result. It feels completely against the spirit of Hinekora’s Lock to me, but that is subjective.
@SamCrimson12 месяца назад
@@ethanlarge3572 I see what you mean, but you can always test multiple outcomes with Hinekora’s Lock, if you use a different currency. In essence, since you can pick many differents items with Awakener's Orb it is logical you can see differents results.
To me, what make it that peoples think is unintended is that the 2-step work of the Awakener's Orb can be cancelled without consuming the Orb.
The only way GGG can correct (other that flat removing the prediction with that Orb, like they did with temple altar) is to force the Orb to be used, not allowing to be cancelled, but it would be super annoying to use then.@ethanlarge35722 месяца назад
@@SamCrimson1 I guess we just disagree. The 2-step part being able to be cancelled doesn’t seem like the problematic/inconsistent part to me. If the Orb was consumed as part of the foretelling process that would be quite odd, as nothing else functions that way. The weird part to me is the ability to test the SAME currency item (Awakener’s Orb) over and over with only one Lock, as opposed to all other currency items which you only get one test per Lock. I guess we will see; I expect GGG will patch this but maybe they won’t (or at least don’t make it a priority hotfix).
@hhaxden2 месяца назад
Why are you vying for the removal of a cool non-gamebreaking interaction mid-patch?
@Salsa2o72 месяца назад
Good content. This is totally unfair and broken if only a small amount of people know about it. Clearly an oversight not working as intended.
@scottishmug96232 месяца назад
hotfixed I think. Same mod always applies same result regardless if it's on a different item.
@wqweqwet18042 месяца назад
Uh no yeah this is intended.
@wqweqwet18042 месяца назад
Thanks for the confirmation that this works like how I thought in 3.22. Was just too broke to do so.
@hlc36602 месяца назад +1
十狂怒大大 666
@tomikimpossible2 месяца назад
I think its fixed. Just tested it. OR at least Hinekora locks on same suff and preff. You didnt test it in vid. If you would try different Angelic Shield with also same block chance affix. I think result is same bad shield. At least it showing me on my boots. Putting different boots (with same affix) on locked item, still same result.
So what you telling in 2:38 is not true at all. So this vid is same dissapointment as your shield :) anyway good try and I love your content, keep up good work, love ya@zaggedout2 месяца назад
#snitchgog
@ahabb92942 месяца назад
Snitchgog please talk about the stupid mf strats
@syph54872 месяца назад
tbh, I am ok with this
@dargorwarrior2 месяца назад
Keeping snitch
@pigeon77772 месяца назад
The new POE snitch?
@ballisticus12 месяца назад
snitchgog. HAHA
@weebindenial34932 месяца назад
Snitch
@Daccura2 месяца назад
Thanks for this info but - my man, you really need to blink. Jesus.
@ExperiencePath2 месяца назад
this is definitely exploit xDD
@virolancer12 месяца назад
wtf
@xFGamerclan2 месяца назад
Thank you for making me waste 20DIV for a interaction that is not working.
@Ada-jn5ms2 месяца назад
20 divs on what? Black morrigan costs like 50c
@xFGamerclan2 месяца назад
@@Ada-jn5ms roll a magic base with an elevated mod
@MrPaulee68682 месяца назад
what was the point of this ?
@EjDantes2 месяца назад +1
It's not designed to be able to have 0 risk and guaranteeing the perfect swap. This is 100% going to be nerfed.
@Bbhhskooow242 месяца назад +2
My guy has the common sense of a rock
@narutopatel1232 месяца назад +1
First! (Don't know if doing this is still a "thing")
@sirgog 2 месяца назад +1
Third!
and like rickrolling, it's a thing as long as it lives in our hearts
@Mythrandil2 месяца назад
Please no more Sirgog, just let players abuse in peace... By the time casual players get in, they patch that right up leaving those who used "clever use of game mechanics" leaps ahead of everyone else. Just leave things as in.
@MrDarkBM2 месяца назад
Idk what it is, but I’m not interested in this league at all.
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