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Dragonjet·2/7/2015in Event Official Threads

[Winter 2015 Event] Reports: E-5

<p>This is an attempt to gather all reports on <span style="font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;">E-5</span> into one thread rather than having them lost in the pages of the <a href="/wiki/Winter_2015_Event" title="Winter 2015 Event">Winter 2015 Event</a> comments.</p><p>Please use this template to get included in the counting</p><pre>{{Fleet|BB|BB|CV|CA|CA|DD||Route = A - H - C - E}}</pre><p><b>Important Notes for Template</b></p><ul><li> You will have to report ship names, their levels and equipment <b>separately</b>. <b>Do not include it into the template</b></li><li> For compositions less than 6 ships, please still <b>include the vertical bars</b> | of the remaining ships.</li><li> <b>For a combined fleet mechanic, only include the first fleet on the template</b>. However, please add the second fleet separately on your post since it seems to affect the branching for this map.</li><li> Admins and Moderators may edit or remove posts that contain template mishaps or intentional attempts to break the mechanism.</li></ul><p><b>Other helpful data you can post</b></p><ul><li> HQ Level</li><li> Equipment LoS (special formula) and Total LoS</li><li> Formation used each node and general analysis of the node</li></ul><p><b>Other notes</b></p><ul><li> Screenshots are allowed, esp enemy patterns</li><li> Branching theories or general tips are also welcome</li></ul><p><br></p><div class="center"><div class="floatnone"><img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/c/ca/Winter2015_e5_map.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/500?cb=20150206155504" alt="Winter2015 e5 map" class="" data-image-key="Winter2015_e5_map.png" data-image-name="Winter2015 e5 map.png" width="500" height="283"></div></div><p><br><b><span style="font-size:18px;">Branching Results</span></b><br></p><div class="FleetCompilation"></div>

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A Fandom user·2/17/2015

<pre><b><span style="font-size:18px;"></span></b></pre><table class="wikitable" style="width:500px; margin:10px 0px 5px; text-align:center;"><tr><td colspan="6" style="font-size:26px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:10px; padding:10px 0px;">A - C - E - G - Boss</td></tr><tr style="font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;"><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">FBB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CA</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CA</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBV</td></tr></table><div class="FleetReport" data-route="A - C - E - G - Boss" data-ship1="CV" data-ship2="FBB" data-ship3="CA" data-ship4="CA" data-ship5="BBV" data-ship6="BBV"></div><pre>|CLT|CLT|FBB|DD|DD|CL|</pre><p>NORMAL or easy mode (not enuf AA for hard using this combi)</p><p>i did use both expeditions 141,142 (arti) each time</p><p>Take note: C has no enemy, and since this route need no radar to counter maelstorm, go for arti-spotting + anti + CV used equip with greens. good luck to all lastmin peeps</p>

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<pre><b><span style="font-size:18px;"></span></b></pre><table class="wikitable" style="width:500px; margin:10px 0px 5px; text-align:center;"><tr><td colspan="6" style="font-size:26px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:10px; padding:10px 0px;">A - C - E - G/H - J</td></tr><tr style="font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;"><td style="padding:10px 0px;">FBB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">FBB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CV</td></tr></table><div class="FleetReport" data-route="A - C - E - G/H - J" data-ship1="FBB" data-ship2="FBB" data-ship3="CV" data-ship4="CV" data-ship5="CV" data-ship6="CV"></div><p>"Midway" method on Easy Difficulty</p><p>2nd fleet -&gt; SSV CLT CLT DD DD CL</p><p>Tried as first run on E-5 with a half spark fleet (about 6 of 12 sparkled, i dunno bout the real numbers) One run. One Boss Kill.</p><p>No ships taiha'd. Only Haruna, Shioi and Kuma were Chuuha'd. Then only Ooi and KTKM were damaged to yellow. No Carriers were hit thoughout.</p><p>I even went thru node G in this run (that means CV hime had 2 more CVs accompanying her) that actually turned my air supreme to air super which worried me a bit.</p><p>I gotta say tho, I'm probably just really lucky here but, there's something satisfying about using your Midway fleet and annihilating at least 2 ships at aerial phase (then Shioi KTKM and Ooi have their turn too). plus I clearly got Air supremacy in Boss. It actually probably offsets the fact your 2nd fleet needs to tank first.</p>

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Jolarish·2/18/2015

<p><b><span style="font-size:18px;"></span></b></p><table class="wikitable" style="width:500px; margin:10px 0px 5px; text-align:center;"><tr><td colspan="6" style="font-size:26px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:10px; padding:10px 0px;">A - C - E - G/H - J</td></tr><tr style="font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;"><td style="padding:10px 0px;">FBB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CAV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BB</td></tr></table><div class="FleetReport" data-route="A - C - E - G/H - J" data-ship1="FBB" data-ship2="BBV" data-ship3="BB" data-ship4="CV" data-ship5="CAV" data-ship6="BB"></div><p>HQ Lv.72, Easy Mode, using Surface Combined Fleet</p><p>First fleet:</p><p>Lv.62 Haruna Kai: 41cm Triple Gun Mount, 35.6cm Twin Gun Mount, Type 0 observation plane, Type 33 Surface RADAR</p><p>Lv.78 Fusou Kai: 41cm Twin Gun Mount x2, Type 91 AP, Zuiun(634 group)</p><p>Lv.42 Kongou Kai: 41cm Twin Gun Mount x2, Type 0 observation seaplane, Type 21 RADAR</p><p>Lv.90 Taihou Kai: Reppuu(601), Reppuu x2, Saiun</p><p>Lv.46 Kumano Kai: 20.3 cm gun x2, 15.5 cm triple yellow gun, Zuiun(634 Group)</p><p>Lv.64 Nagato Kai: 41cm Twin Gun Mount X2, Type 0 observation plane, Type 32 Surface RADAR</p><p>Second fleet:</p><p>Lv.44 Tone Kai: 20.3 cm gun x2, 15.5 cm triple yellow gun, Type 0 observation seaplane</p><p>Lv.34 Natori Kai: 20.3 cm gun x2, Type 0 observation plane</p><p>Lv.49 Shimakaze Kai: 10cm high angle gun, 61cm Quad O2 Torpedo Mount x2</p><p>Lv.46 Asashio Kai:10cm high angle gun, 61cm Quad O2 Torpedo Mount x2</p><p>Lv.74 Kitakami Kai 2: Type A Ko-hyoteki, 61cm Quad O2 Torpedo Mount, 61cm Quint O2 Torpedo Mount</p><p>Lv.47 I-58: 61cm Quad O2 Torpedo Mount</p><p><br></p><figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px"><a href="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/c/c5/Bandicam_2015-02-18_15-50-47-636.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150218082039" class="image image-thumbnail"><img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/c/c5/Bandicam_2015-02-18_15-50-47-636.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/180?cb=20150218082039" alt="Bandicam 2015-02-18 15-50-47-636" class="thumbimage " data-image-key="Bandicam_2015-02-18_15-50-47-636.jpg" data-image-name="Bandicam 2015-02-18 15-50-47-636.jpg" width="180" height="108"></a> <figcaption><a href="/wiki/File:Bandicam_2015-02-18_15-50-47-636.jpg" class="sprite info-icon"></a> </figcaption></figure>Cleared in 13 runs, all 24 ships sparkled, inclding the combined fleet and 2 support fleets.<p>Youtube: [<a rel="nofollow" class="external autonumber" href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=_F53ihww6Po">[1]</a>]</p>

(Edited by Jolarish)

Buddy2eyes·2/18/2015

<pre><b><span style="font-size:18px;"></span></b></pre><table class="wikitable" style="width:500px; margin:10px 0px 5px; text-align:center;"><tr><td colspan="6" style="font-size:26px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:10px; padding:10px 0px;">A - C - E - H/G - J</td></tr><tr style="font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;"><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CVL</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">FBB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CVL</td></tr></table><div class="FleetReport" data-route="A - C - E - H/G - J" data-ship1="CVL" data-ship2="FBB" data-ship3="BBV" data-ship4="BBV" data-ship5="BB" data-ship6="CVL"></div><p>I play <b>Normal mode</b>, 2nd fleet: SSV<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:14px;">|</span>CL<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:14px;">|</span>DD<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:14px;">|</span>DD<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:14px;">|</span>CLT<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);line-height:14px;">|</span>CLT (Surface Naval Task Force - 水上艦隊)</p><p>My last attempt in clip, I use the same formation all the time (just change Kirishima to Hiei on two last tries, I-401 to I-58)</p><p><i><b>First fleet</b></i></p><p>CVL: LV.59 Chitose Kai Ni(Reppu 601 | Reppu | Reppu | Fleet Command Facility)</p><p>FBB: LV.82 Hiei Kai Ni (41cm★+4 | 41cm | Type 0 Observation Seaplane | Type 91 AP Shell★+6)</p><p>BBV: LV.69 Ise Kai (Prototype 41cm | 41cm★+4 | FuMO25 Radar | Zuiun Model 12)</p><p>BBV: LV.70 Hyuuga Kai (Prototype 41cm | 41cm★+3 | Type 14 Air Radar | Zuiun Model 12)</p><p>BB: LV.67 Musashi Kai (Prototype 51cm | 41cm★+3 | Type 0 Observation Seaplane | Type 1 AP Shell)</p><p>CVL: LV.58 Chiyoda Kai Ni (Reppu | Reppu | Reppu | Saiun)</p><p><i><b>Second Fleet</b></i></p><p>SSV: LV.68 I-58 (53cm Submarine Torpedo (8 tubes) x2)</p><p>CL: LV.70 Sendai Kai Ni(SKC34 20.3cm | 20.3cm(no.2) | Recon Seaplane Night Scout)</p><p>DD: LV.70 Fubuki Kai Ni (10cm HA + AA Fire Director★+7 | 10cm HA + AA Fire Director | Type 13 Air Radar)</p><p>DD: LV.83 Ayanami Kai ni (12.7cm Type-B Kai Ni★+6 | 61cm Quint Torpedo| 61cm Triple Oxygen)</p><p>CLT: LV.74 Ooi Kai Ni (20.3cm(no.2)★+4 | 20.3cm(no.2)★+4 | Midget)</p><p>CLT: LV.79 Kitakami Kai Ni (61cm Quint Oxygen x2 | Midget)</p><p>I didn't count but I think I went around 10~12 times. Two tries for E5 Normal last form. 10k~ Fuel, Ammo and 5k~7k Steel cost here.</p><p>I think AP Shells and BB's main gun with upgraded are the key to beat this BB Demon (100~200+ damages on her by Hiei and Musashi) If I play Hard mode I may wish any BB with AP Shell could tear down one of BB Princess or beat BB Demon to moderately damaged as the best.</p><p>My clip show support expeditions' too if you're interested.</p><figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 335px"><a href="http://kancolle.fandom.com/wiki/File:%E3%80%90%E8%89%A6%E3%81%93%E3%82%8C2015%E5%86%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%83%99%E3%80%91E5_Normal_(%E4%B9%99)_Last_Attempt" class="video video-thumbnail image lightbox medium "><img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/6/67/%E3%80%90%E8%89%A6%E3%81%93%E3%82%8C2015%E5%86%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%83%99%E3%80%91E5_Normal_%28%E4%B9%99%29_Last_Attempt/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/335?cb=20150218140501" alt="【艦これ2015冬イベ】E5 Normal (乙) Last Attempt" class="thumbimage " data-video-key="【艦これ2015冬イベ】E5_Normal_(乙)_Last_Attempt" data-video-name="【艦これ2015冬イベ】E5 Normal (乙) Last Attempt" width="335" height="188"><span class="thumbnail-play-icon-container"><svg class="thumbnail-play-icon" viewbox="0 0 180 180" width="100%" height="100%"><g fill="none" fill-rule="evenodd"><g opacity=".9" transform="rotate(90 75 90)"><g fill="#000" filter="url(#a)"><rect id="b" width="150" height="150" rx="75"></rect></g><g fill="#FFF"><rect id="b" width="150" height="150" rx="75"></rect></g></g><path fill="#00D6D6" fill-rule="nonzero" d="M80.87 58.006l34.32 25.523c3.052 2.27 3.722 6.633 1.496 9.746a6.91 6.91 0 0 1-1.497 1.527l-34.32 25.523c-3.053 2.27-7.33 1.586-9.558-1.527A7.07 7.07 0 0 1 70 114.69V63.643c0-3.854 3.063-6.977 6.84-6.977 1.45 0 2.86.47 4.03 1.34z"></path></g></svg></span></a> <figcaption><a href="/wiki/File:%E3%80%90%E8%89%A6%E3%81%93%E3%82%8C2015%E5%86%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%83%99%E3%80%91E5_Normal_(%E4%B9%99)_Last_Attempt" class="sprite info-icon"></a> <p class="title">【艦これ2015冬イベ】E5 Normal (乙) Last Attempt</p> </figcaption></figure>

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<div class="quote"><i>Mariessa wrote:<br><b><span style="font-size:18px;"></span></b><table class="wikitable" style="width:500px; margin:10px 0px 5px; text-align:center;"><tr><td colspan="6" style="font-size:26px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:10px; padding:10px 0px;">A - C - E - G/H - J</td></tr><tr style="font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;"><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CLP</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CV</td></tr></table><div class="FleetReport" data-route="A - C - E - G/H - J" data-ship1="CLP" data-ship2="BBV" data-ship3="BBV" data-ship4="BB" data-ship5="BB" data-ship6="CV"></i></div><br><p>Lv102 Hard Mode</p><p>Tried so many compositions and wasted about 50k res and 300+ buckets with the boss still at more than half bar and not one kill. Tried out this fleet and completed the event in a few hours, without even sparkling or using support expeditions. Katori (didn't even Kai her) for command + avoiding maelstrom, BBVs for air superiority with Kaga, and hotels for damage. I found having a unit capable of air cut-in to be a great help actually getting to the boss. For the Light Cruiser abyss at the first node, I used fourth formation so I can kill or disable her to avoid the finishing torpedo. Rest used second, boss fourth for full offensive. Ended up only using one Damecon on Katori by the end; she didn't seem to get targeted very often.</p><p>Main Fleet:</p><figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px"><a href="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/d/d5/E5clear.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150209162318" class="image image-thumbnail"><img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/d/d5/E5clear.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/180?cb=20150209162318" alt="E5clear" class="thumbimage " data-image-key="E5clear.jpg" data-image-name="E5clear.jpg" width="180" height="108"></a> <figcaption><a href="/wiki/File:E5clear.jpg" class="sprite info-icon"></a> </figcaption></figure>Katori (26) - New Steam Broiler / Command Facility / Damecon<p>Fusou/Yamashiro (both 82) - Prototype 41cm / Prototype 35.6cm / AP Ammo / Zuiun Model 12</p><p>Yamato (139) - Prototype 51cm / 46cm / Type 0 Obs / Type 91 AP</p><p>Musashi (67) - 46cm / 46cm / Type 0 Obs / Type 91 AP</p><p>Kaga (82) - Reppuu (601) / Reppuu (601) / Reppuu Kai / Reppuu</p><p>Second Fleet:</p><p>Jintsuu (80) - SKC34 20.3cm / 20.3cm (2) / Searchlight</p><p>Yuudachi (78) - 10cmAA+Director / 10cmAA+Director / Type 13 Air Radar</p><p>Kirishima (99) - 35.6cm Dazzle / Prototype 41cm / Type 98 Scout (Night) / Type 91 AP</p><p>Shigure (97) - 53cm Torp / 61cm Quint Torp / Star Shell</p><p>Ooi/Kitakami (both 99) - 15.5cm Triple yellow / 15.5cm Triple yellow / Type A Ko-hyoteki</p></div><p>THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I've tried so many different composition that seems to work for others, but I couldn't get anywhere with E5 hard until I used your composition. I was about to give up on hope, tried this composition and it worked like charm, took me a bit more time to finish off the Boss Final Form but that's just RNG Kami-sama trolling me hard. But thank you, for without your composition I don't think I would have made it!</p>

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Hyperion04·2/18/2015

<p><b><span style="font-size:18px;"></span></b></p><table class="wikitable" style="width:500px; margin:10px 0px 5px; text-align:center;"><tr><td colspan="6" style="font-size:26px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:10px; padding:10px 0px;">A - C - E - G/H - J</td></tr><tr style="font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;"><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CAV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBF</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBF</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BB</td></tr></table><div class="FleetReport" data-route="A - C - E - G/H - J" data-ship1="CAV" data-ship2="BBV" data-ship3="BBF" data-ship4="CV" data-ship5="BBF" data-ship6="BB"></div><p><b>HQ 96 - Easy</b></p><p><b>Fleet 1</b></p><p><b>Tone (81)</b>: 1x 20.3cm(no.3), 1x 20.3cm(no.2), Zuiun (634 Air Group), Fleet Command</p><p><b>Yamashiro (80)</b>: 2x 41cm, 2x Zuiun (Auspicious Clouds)</p><p><b>Kongou (77)</b>: 1x 41cm, 1x 36cm (Dazzle), Seaplane, Type 22 Radar</p><p><b>Kaga (84)</b>: 2x Reppuu, 1x Dive Bomber, 1x Saiun</p><p><b>Haruna (85)</b>: 1x 41cm, 1x 36cm (Dazzle), Seaplane, Type 22 Radar</p><p><b>Nagato (61)</b>: 1x 46cm, 1x 41cm, Seaplane, Type 22 Radar</p><p><br><b>Fleet 2</b></p><p><b>Jintsuu (82)</b>: 2x 20.3cm(no.2), 1x Night Seaplane</p><p><b>Kiso (85)</b>: 2x 15.5 (secondary), 1x Midget</p><p><b>Kitakami (81)</b>: 2x 15.5 (secondary), 1x Midget</p><p><b>Yukikaze (74)</b>: 2x Quints, 10cm HA</p><p><b>Shigure (74)</b>: 2x Quads, 10cm HA</p><p><b>I-19 (54)</b>: 1x Quint, 1x Quad</p><p><br>I used Surface Combined Fleet and the bottom right formation for all nodes, apart from the Pre-Boss. Cleared in 9 runs. Just watch out for Node G. That one is more difficult than the Boss node.</p>

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Damaged927·2/19/2015

<pre><b><span style="font-size:18px;"></span></b></pre><table class="wikitable" style="width:500px; margin:10px 0px 5px; text-align:center;"><tr><td colspan="6" style="font-size:26px; font-weight:bold; letter-spacing:10px; padding:10px 0px;">A - C - E - G /H - J</td></tr><tr style="font-size:16px; font-weight:bold;"><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CL</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">FBB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">FBB</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">BBV</td><td style="padding:10px 0px;">CV</td></tr></table><div class="FleetReport" data-route="A - C - E - G /H - J" data-ship1="CL" data-ship2="BB" data-ship3="FBB" data-ship4="FBB" data-ship5="BBV" data-ship6="CV"></div><figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px"><a href="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/5/57/E5_Final_Kill_1.png/revision/latest?cb=20150219000606" class="image image-thumbnail"><img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/5/57/E5_Final_Kill_1.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/180?cb=20150219000606" alt="E5 Final Kill 1" class="thumbimage " data-image-key="E5_Final_Kill_1.png" data-image-name="E5 Final Kill 1.png" width="180" height="208"></a> <figcaption><a href="/wiki/File:E5_Final_Kill_1.png" class="sprite info-icon"></a> <p class="caption">First Fleet</p> </figcaption></figure><figure class="article-thumb tright show-info-icon" style="width: 180px"><a href="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/2/28/E5_Final_Kill_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20150219000621" class="image image-thumbnail"><img src="https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/2/28/E5_Final_Kill_2.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/180?cb=20150219000621" alt="E5 Final Kill 2" class="thumbimage " data-image-key="E5_Final_Kill_2.png" data-image-name="E5 Final Kill 2.png" width="180" height="207"></a> <figcaption><a href="/wiki/File:E5_Final_Kill_2.png" class="sprite info-icon"></a> <p class="caption">Second Fleet</p> </figcaption></figure>Phew, what a ride! This was crazy. It took me 62 attempts (44 for last kill). It came down to a Yukikaze cut in ftw:D Here is what I used (I attach pictures as well)<p><b>1st Fleet:</b></p><p><br>Katori Kai (56): 10cm HA+FD, Type 14 Air Radar, type 94 FD, FCF<br>Nagato Kai (113): 41cm proto, 51cm proto, Type 0 obs, Type 91 AP<br>Hiei Kai Ni (120): 41cm proto, 35.6cm proto, Type 0 obs, Type 91 AP<br>Kongou Kai Ni (117): 41cm proto, 35.6cm proto, Type 0 obs, Type 91 AP<br>Fusou Kai Ni (86): 38cm kai, 35.6cm proto, Type 91 AP, Zuiun 12<br>Kaga Kai (94): Reppu 601, Reppu 601, Reppu Kai, Saiun</p><p><b>2nd Fleet:</b></p><p><br>Kitakami Kai Ni (117): Quint, Oxy, Midget Sub<br>Naka Kai Ni (144): 15.5cm, 15.5cm, Searchlight<br>Shigure Kai Ni (98): Quint, Oxy, Flares<br>Bismarck Drei (122): 41cm proto, 38cm kai, type 0 obs, type 1 AP<br>Ooi Kai Ni (55): SKC34, SKC34, Midget Sub<br>Yukikaze Kai (92): Quint, Oxy, Oxy</p>

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A Fandom user·2/19/2015

Is it worth it to put a saiun on Kaga or will it just make things worse?

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DustFan·2/19/2015

<div class="quote"><i>Quote:<br>Is it worth it to put a saiun on Kaga or will it just make things worse?</i></div><br><p>assuming you play at hard.. T-Cross Disadvantage will not save you from the wrath of CV oni.. and T-Cross Disadvantage will also be a handicap once you are in the last dance where you have to crush the Dysons.. imo, only take Saiun when you are in the last dance.. trust me, when you made it that one time pass the oni and you get T-Cross Disadvantage at the boss's final form... it's depressing</p>

(Edited by DustFan)

A Fandom user·2/19/2015

<p>Thanks! Three more kills to go...</p>

(Edited by A Fandom user)

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